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Friday, September 4, 2015

ABOUT COMMANDOS


Attention is invited to "an illustrated interview" with an experienced commander of Spetsnaz, he gave answers to questions concerning, mainly military and domestic aspects of life of the modern Army Special Forces soldiers. To his story matched the corresponding photographs taken at different times in different parts and divisions of Spetsnaz special forces and airborne troops in the reconnaissance from motorized infantry.

Group Spetsnaz put any problem, it is determined that it is necessary to carry out autonomously seven to ten days. How is the training? How and by whom it is determined that with him to take? 
In the equipment, in most cases, each scout individually decides when the chief or senior commander to bring him some direction about the problem, how many days leave. Each outfit is preparing himself, realizing that he needed for a stated period, and the commander of the group has direct control. Now we have good equipment goes, before it was weaker. However - the soldiers are trying to buy some items on their own. Try to keep things warm, light was. Basically, to Gore-Tex (prim.avt. - This refers to the membrane in general, not just the products specified brand) was. Shine lot of attention.The most important thing is the shoes of anyone.  

Scout Sniper Special Forces Airborne on academic output.



What kind of shoes choose?  
Ankle boots, mostly before the US took, firms Crispi. Now a lot of others, which use modern technologies and materials. We need a waterproof, breathable and warm for the duration of the output boots. During the combat mission shoes generally can not be removed: you're in it and sleep. Clothing, if possible, too, to buy themselves: jackets, pants membrane material, they do not miss the water and in such clothes comfortable in any weather. B Snow, for example, you can lie down and not get wet. 

Socks are using different leg wrappings too. When the membrane of shoes there, it can be used in a conventional feminine pads. They just put in the shoes as absorbent, sorbent. If there are no good shoes, then use conventional ankle boots. Before leaving, they are lubricated with some goose fat, all the pores thoroughly soaked. Just take any fat or lard and soaked to the shoes become more moisture resistant.  

The same vaunted shoes Crispi.

Fighter uses ankle boots from the most "simple".

Is there a need for all the scouts in the group at the same wear camouflage? 
In most cases, special forces reconnaissance is not particularly adhere to this rule, all went to was about the same. At least in previous years, when the software was not (in the two thousandth years, until about 2010).Now the supply is quite good and there is a good outfit, but because groups often appear outwardly uniform.Previously, each to himself bought almost everything. It turns seemingly motley group. On to combat the problem is, by and large, it does not affect. Clarification - the group commander and the radio operator should not stand out from the crowd. If more or less the same, the visual first time it is impossible to determine who is the team and by whom. 

The commander of one of the groups with his deputy clarify the situation.

The Internet is constantly being debated that a certain camouflage pattern is better than another. There are some observations on this issue? 
The observations are as follows: in the highlands usually "slides" using camouflage - in a wooded area. And what he is, "cartoons" or some, that is to say, removed from life debate. Anyway, without individual improvements can not do. 

Reconnaissance 45-th Guards separate Order of Kutuzov Order of Alexander Nevsky Regiment Special conduct training mining bridge.  
Magic "cartoons" and other camouflage patterns presented in the assortment. Especially good fighter in the bush and Rasfokus.

How well-proven multi-layered current uniforms VKBO? 
I think it's pretty convenient. At least the heat, if all wear the instructions. The idea is that if you just stand in the clothes, in everyday life, at home - it is normal. And when the task load high, you are constantly moving: mainly in t-shirt, vest and a jacket. Most often, it is still "slide": comfortable, durable thing, which is used on a daily basis. And be sure to bear a replacement set of dry clothes so you can change when people in the maturation or pleasure stop in an ambush become. In general, when you can rest, immediately changing clothes to dry quickly. 

On the serviceman's clothing from the VKBO (all-season set of basic outfits).

Is there any minimum "reserve water?" 
Two or three "poltorashki" to each for the first time in anyone. From my experience I can say that from his subordinates during the tasks required to ensure a minimum flow of water. Three hundred grams of water in the morning (cup of tea) and the next circle in the evening. This, too, three hundred grams of water. During movement on the task of drinking water is strictly prohibited. Maybe, of course, they are out there and tried to secretly drink stops, well, this thing on their conscience.  
There is not even the fact that someone can violate the requirements of the commander. The body, when the load is high - mobilized. Soldiers go, go, and here again! Water! And once the body relaxes. If you drink one hundred, two hundred, three hundred grams of water - the body just stops working as it should. That is, he relaxes even not not go hunting or to do something you do not want. Therefore, drinking regime - this is such an important factor, especially when heavy loads are.  
Because we all take about the same amount of water, after a few days I'll see how I remain, as much as the band. Let's say I was left half, and the people have water already end: then drank without a team. It is an unnecessary problem - it is necessary to look on a map, as if to find a place where to get water, if possible. If there is no place or opportunity, you will have to endure. Often, for example, must be seven days from morning till night to move to search. And in the evening, for example, when actions are planned ambush or leisure - here in the evening, you can quench your thirst. 
Often it is necessary to dispense with local water or deal with poor water quality. This is normal. If successful scenario river or stream is quite amiss for drinking, if there is no bottled water with you. Often it also happens that the task is put on three or four days, and it will last for ten days and more. Then we have the power and ends. Periodically we confronted with the fact that the problem of above-plan prolonged. Then the snow and even puddles it. Using pills "Akvatabs" for water, which are in rations (PRI). Water after them, of course, disgusting and smelly, but becomes suitable drinking.

As the water is transferred? Directly in plastic bottles?  
Yes, in simple butylkah- "poltorashka." Or "kemelbekah". Weight is distributed convenient, accurate system, the motion does not create interference. It is a good thing. 

A soldier demonstrates his Spetsnaz personal hydrator type camelback.

With regard to non-combat equipment that is required to take with them whether there are any "approved" at least?  
Because food - depending on how many days you are going. For example, the yield for seven days, then should, in theory, be given seven daily diets (PRI). But more than three and a half no one takes, and what share is left only the basic foods to remove weight. Every extra kilo will bear. Well water naturally. In the winter easier, you can use the snow: melt, boil or add decontamination tablet. Without water, nothing.  

The rest individually: insulated cups, burners. One need fashionable burner with piezo, strike sharply the other matches, third for heating water and food uses special tablets. Those who suhpaykah, we do not use. One hundred meters is quite possible to smell the smell of a burning pills, even more, perhaps.  

The soldier on a halt Spetsnaz units. He opened the package with the PRI (individual diet) and tried to put aside the fact that he would take with him to the task. It turned out just to say a little bit. Basically, in a pile under the title "suitable" included stew and bacon. Everything else has been classified as "luxury"

Were there any trouble from contaminated water? Diarrhea or stomach upset? 
I can say that during the war is not happening. In practice, this is a very rare case, because the body is mobilized to work so that it does not take anything. Not sick people. But after the return may be ill when he came back. Here the body is relaxed, and you can get sick. On the job were isolated cases, someone with something ill. Just load is high, the responsibility is high enough. The man is mobilized, the body works to its fullest, and it does not take anything, neither illness nor germs. 

Let's group stopped to rest. We all have our own water and food, everyone eats his or something is in the common pot? 
Everyone eats their own. The group is usually divided into small cells of three, for example. Inside the "twos" or "triples" - is as collusion. If someone from the group ate all his back and wanted to eat, he certainly will, but the corresponding confusion arises: what are you, dear friend? So did the water situation. It all comes with time, with coherence. Group lapped, second or third and Walker all already know everything.  

Some stimulants, energy on the tasks used?  
Especially not. I, at least, did not use ever. Is that homemade energy drinks do sometimes, when necessary.And coffee. People prepare themselves high-mix chocolate, cognac and lemon. From the very widespread - dried fruits, sweets. "Snickers" very nutritious and high-calorie, give a lot of energy and weigh little.  

It was the case, for us to "jump" (prim.avt. - Refers to the annual competition Spetsnaz groups, officially referred to as All-Army competition intelligence units of the Land Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation "Green Path") came harsh guys - so they ate, "sneakers" with mayonnaise. I just covered a delight! 

The main thing is not what you eat, but what it gives you. Eat something you can do, anything, really. In mayonnaise, mostly fats, oils - they are "long" and the need for long passages, and "fast" carbohydrates - on the contrary. If you feel that you can not stomp - again! and ate candy. It is the "fast" carbohydrates gives, everything is rapidly absorbed, and you again for a short time "hearty."

Intimate questions. If the problem is such that it is not necessary anywhere to "shine" in general - is organized as a question to the administration of natural needs? 
Inside "two" or "three" this issue is solved as standard. One observes one rests one necessarily covers. I dug a hole, made ​​in her case, all buried, disguised, left. To a trail not to leave any. In winter snow. If you lie and you can not get up, then lying. The package, in the sand, for example. But it's more for the snipers, who come to the task. In groups there are simpler: the people more. The problem lay motionless for days and observe generally do not make.  

Sniper at rest. A soldier in the background gives the holidays legs, scoring higher on their backpack.

Sniper couple moved in search of a place for "seasoning."

Senior couple gesture makes it clear partner - "lie down."

As far as the personnel of the group will be able to replace each other? 
In the group there are the commander, his deputy, the radio operator. These people are key. In addition they have a scout-arrow-Gunners scouts, spies, medics. If you need all interchangeable. For example, take the scout medic. It is the same intelligence as the other, just knows medicine anymore. But if he will need help - the rest will be able to provide. Or gunner. All his life with a machine gun, he knows it perfectly, but if need be, then the others can take a machine gun and fire. We have plenty of all interchangeable.

Someone in the group is the hardest job? 
The most difficult work - it's probably a radio operator. Because apart from the fact that he carries with him all the same as the usual spy, he must bear and the radio station, which also weighs a lot. This is a rather narrow specialists, need to know a lot, ranging from radio to the requirements of TTX to the place from which to broadcast, and it's pretty easy. In second place - the team leader and his deputy. Hard and Heavy's: weight at the gun is great, strong guys should be hardy. And everything else you need as vzaimosostavlyayuschie mosaic: every need in his direction.  
On the group say: Heavy always try to unload as much as possible, it is physically heavier than others. He has a very large ammunition he carries with him two thousand rounds (prim.avt. - One machine-gun cartridge 7,62? 54R weighs about 25 grams). For one person, it's hard. He takes the bulk of the ammunition, and the rest distributed among his top three. Comrades, if the fight goes, help with a machine gun, give ammunition to equip podsobit tape. If one group gets tired and just fails, or beaten out of power due to the fact that pulling a lot of weight, and the rest will be joyful and merry go light - no one from this well will not. Is distributed evenly all over and over and that all were happy and cheerful. 
Each group commander decides who is who is in the top three. It is such a small team that is standing together on a task, it is such a combat unit. Sometimes the group commander interfere in the affairs troika. For example, when you have to decide who and what to carry more than necessary.  
Are there any unofficial circumstances when a fighter asks transferred from group to group? This is what happens? 
There is, but it is very isolated cases. The company, for example, the company commander can people shuffle their power. Suitable, for example, the group commander and company commander says: This fellow does not fit in their some quality, you can translate it. But mostly, the team that originally there - permanent. People stumble, adapt to one another over time. The band is constant. If a person, for example, fell ill before the assignment, it is usually not replaced by anyone, not supplement group, she goes on a mission in the "minus one". When returned to the base - again, people hold together, friendship families common. 

Heavy Regiment 45 Airborne special forces in an ambush.
 
 
A single 7.62-mm machine gun PEP "Pecheneg". The Spetsnaz began to meet more often than the RMB, based on which "Pecheneg" and was created.

 
Scout-45 Airborne Regiment gunner with a machine gun "Pecheneg".

 
Special Forces on the shooting range. Perhaps the only bright claims made Gunners practitioners to the "Pecheneg" - uncomfortable position handle.

Medications. Everyone has their own individual stock or on one large group? 
Medicines - first-aid kit to everyone, standard, nothing more. What is now issued, a standard first aid kit - it is, in principle, there is everything you need.

What is the most common medical "trouble" during the task?  
In my lifetime there was nothing wrong. Feet washed, of course, but if the erased legs - are to blame. Whether shoes are not very suitable, or did not care that it was dry. In principle, nothing terrible and there: a pair of outputs and legs "grinded" become calloused, wiping as the stone becomes. If Spetsnaz soldier serving for a long time, do not rub anything. If you want to have your feet are dry, pick up shoes, prepare shoes before entering. Well, I do not want - then go as you can. If you wiped his feet, the problems of Indians do not care about the sheriff. You're still not going anywhere, you'll just go. Of course, if someone wipe his feet and will have a burden for the whole group - no he did not say anything good. This is also an incentive. 

Fighter covers crossing. Note shoes.

He. Back view. during walking alone feet, apparently, it was covered with plaster. Preventive or results - it is not clear.

Quite often in Internet discussion about knives, about the cold SWAT weapons. Some believe that this intelligence to the enemy creeps silently and stabs a knife into his throat. It happens? 
It happens, of course. To the cinema. Knife - a tool for us. For this incident, there is a silent weapon, which operates at a distance. I do not have anywhere to crawl, do not themselves issue.At least, you can always get close to such a distance to the enemy, from which it can be destroyed from the same silenced pistol or a silent machine. However, no matter what anyone said, but to quietly creep up behind the man, like in the movies show it is possible. But it is very long and very hard.  

If a person is on duty, whatever it was careless, he sensitively distinguish sounds, especially at night, when they heard far away. A rustling movement immediately attracts attention, crawl at such a distance is possible, but have to crawl on the millimeter, and it is very long. Now things are much easier, as the silenced pistol can solve such problems at a distance of ten to fifteen meters.  

Scout demonstrates the techniques of shooting from PB (pistol Silent).

Externally similar to PB PM, but PM is not relevant.

Spetsnaz Sniper conducts automatic fire from AS "Val".

Spetsnaz Sniper shoots rubber eye cup with an optical sight mounted on BCC "Vintorez."

Scouts at the shooting range. Armed BCC "Vintorez" and AS "Val".

Automatic silent pistol (APB).

Silent version of the famous gun APS.

Pistol PSS "Wool".

"Wool" provides noiseless and flameless firing range of up to 50 meters. It shoots virtually besshumno.Ogon of MSS "Wool" conducted a special cartridge SP-4. The complex MSS-SP-4 provide the maximum degree of silencing zvuka.Porohovye gases clipped inside the sleeve, which ensures quiet operation of the weapon. Ammunition hit Bang Bang Army steel helmet at a distance of 25 meters.



LDCs. Knives scout shooting: the first and second versions.

The instructor demonstrates the techniques of shooting from scouts knife.

In general, the knives have intelligence with them there? 
Of course, each has its own scout knife. Open a bank, which cut the wires clean. If necessary, of course, can cause damage and knife. A good knife - it's nice. When he did not immediately blunts when it does not need a long time to sharpen. My opinion - the knife is needed mostly for domestic use. Well, just in case, if it is absolutely the kiss. 

Scout Sniper. Armed BCC "Vintorez" and shoot knife.

What do you think about colleagues from the number of "potential enemies"? Who is cooler? 
I have on this subject his mind: it is not belonging to the SAS or the Israelis, and they have people slabopodgotovlennye not prepared, and we have a group of transcendent level. Regarding the question "Who is cooler?": In combat situations, none of us with SAS «group to the group" does not come across. Together, we - the piece goods. The probability that a group of special forces will face another group of enemy ... which means either no good (laughs). It seems to me, a rare, even unlikely event that this happens. Approximately, like snipers, two bullets hit counter each other. This is not the tank battalions came together in the melee! 

As far as the computer modeling on the Internet - who knows from which they originate in the modeling parameters of how to assess the opponents? This level of "someone who zaboret - a whale or an elephant?" I think everything is just on the individual preparation of each fighter and coherence of the group depends. And compare the "slope", but looking on the Internet, they are out there running around on camera, that is to say, not a show trial. They perform some tasks and we are doing about the same. But how to compare, I do not know. Yes, we are watching the "colleagues", open source has not been canceled. There is nothing radically new in their preparation is not, there is nothing that would be fundamentally different from us. The nuances, of course.  

In this sense, perhaps, even the experience of the Great Patriotic War will be more useful. We talked with the veterans, sometimes talking with older scouts - grandfathers, who, as they say, with a bayonet and a knife went to the Germans. Came old seasoned scout who polvoyny held in reconnaissance, he told how to carry out sabotage actions as landed. In this case, because of the progress as such, no. The principle is the same, simply means change. Yesterday, it was with a spear, and with today 'Vintorez. " The principle of ambushes does not change. 

And the ambush - a creative work. There are, of course, the canons, but the main role is played by the commander of the group how he brain works and how it uses some innovative approaches to the study of the terrain, the enemy. When, where and how to approach - it is individual commander to think. In this sense, Afghanistan has given a lot of experience: conducting sabotage and conduct ambushes, many have considered and reconsidered -Save combat and marching order, who looks much like watching someone like moves, with some intervals, viewing distance, the distance for certain defeat, which is closer wherein on and so forth. And it also comes with experience.
 

Tuesday, September 16, 2014

HAPPY AIRBORNE

August 2 - a holiday that celebrates the "winged infantry" across the country, from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, from Sevastopol to Arkhangelsk.
 
  • There is at the Airborne Forces of Russia and its capital, its starting point, it is with which began the glorious march of "blue berets", different generations which has been '84 stand guard over the interests of the Fatherland, performing their tasks. This capital city and this point of the report - the city of Voronezh, because it is here August 2, 1930 for the first time in the history of the country has been made an amphibious landing from the air.
    Happy Airborne!  Airborne, holiday, August 2,
  • On this day, it can be a little bit more than everyone else, because it is their day - Airborne Day! August 2 - a holiday that celebrates the "winged infantry" across the country, from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, from Sevastopol to Arkhangelsk. There is at the Airborne Forces of Russia and its capital, its starting point, it is with which began the glorious march of "blue berets", different generations which has been '84 stand guard over the interests of the Fatherland, performing their tasks. This capital city and this point of the report - the city of Voronezh, because it is here August 2, 1930 for the first time in the history of the country has been made ​​an amphibious landing from the air.
    12 people executed landing by parachute in a given area during the participation in the exercise of the Moscow Military District. At the landing site of the first landing in Voronezh, a monument that bears the name of "Voronezh - Homeland Airborne."
    Happy Airborne!  Airborne, holiday, August 2,
  • The grand opening took place in August 2010, and three years before the event at the same place was a memorable character.
    Here - next to the monument - are events dedicated to the Day of Airborne Troops, which brings together people who know first-hand what service in the Airborne troops. There is an opportunity to meet with colleagues, remember the service, to discuss the joy of past victories, to pay tribute to those who are not, thank veterans.
    Happy Airborne!  Airborne, holiday, August 2,
  • Another tradition of the Day of Airborne Troops in Voronezh associated with paratroopers march on the main avenues of the city. Columns of people in vests and blue berets can be found on Revolution Avenue, Moskovsky Prospekt, on the other streets. Tradition to organize processions of representatives of "winged infantry", of course, not only Voronezh. In different cities of Russia and other CIS countries can be seen marching Landing Forces, to which the citizens for many years, their conduct the bulk of time to get used to.
    Happy Airborne!  Airborne, holiday, August 2,
  • Airborne Day - one of those military events, which are well known even by those who have to Airborne irrelevant.The fact that the holiday special charisma, absolutely unique flavor, which is impossible not to pay attention.
    Soldiers Airborne Forces have participated in dozens of armed conflict, showing real courage and valor. The motto "no one but us," perhaps the most clearly expresses the essence of the Airborne Forces. This pride in the fact that a person had the honor to guard the interests of the Fatherland, becoming an integral part of a larger army brotherhood of men in blue berets. This brotherhood - not for a year or two. It is life.
    Happy Airborne!  Airborne, holiday, August 2,
  • Congratulations to all who passed and served in the glorious Airborne Troops, congratulations relatives and friends of those for whom the abbreviation "Airborne" is not an empty phrase. Have paratroopers not lose contact with their co-workers, always remember the great deeds of their ancestors, the courage to give lessons to the younger generation. And yet - a strong health, the symbol of which is the appearance of the Soviet (Russian) commando!Happy Holidays! Happy Airborne!
    Happy Airborne!  Airborne, holiday, August 2,

Sunday, September 14, 2014

PROHIBITION DOES NOT STOP

European Union announced sanctions against the famous Concern PVO Manual leading domestic developer systems Aerospace Defense responded to a purely political decision of the West rather calmly.

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CEO "Almaz-Antey" Yang Novikov, as reported by his press office, said that EU sanctions against Concern PVO only confirmed the importance of the company's products for the defense of the country. According to him, "the EU's decision to impose sanctions is ambivalent feeling. With one hand, we are proud of concern in connection with this assessment of its significance for countries. On the other, there is regret for this hypocritical decision. " Novikov said that "in the absence of arguments about the possible involvement of militias and especially Russia to the tragedy of the Malaysian" Boeing-777 "on the ground Donetsk, resort to various tricks, blaming the incident on the developer weapon is unacceptable." In the words of "RG" Director Center for Analysis of World Arms Trade Igor Korotchenko, a decision aimed at restricting the activities of the Russian company in the global arms market, due primarily to increased competition. The West is trying to clear one of the strongest players, using absolutely unscrupulous techniques. Today our concern defense is ranked 14th in the ranking of the world's leading manufacturers of weapons and military equipment. Rapidly growing demand for system "S-300" various modifications, "Tor-M1" and other complexes that can not disturb the competitors. Without the ability to create military equipment, at least partially close as possible to the Russian models, we start to press on administrative. Agree, somehow not in the market look such actions. Officials of the European Union, of course, justified its decision by the fact that it is "Almaz-Antey" is responsible for the downed "Boeing-777" and should be punished. Strange logic. Investigation into the causes crash Malaysian liner and still almost did not start. Who and what brought down the airliner - is unknown. True, it's no mystery, SAM "Buk-M1" from the Soviet era remain in the Army of Ukraine. But here the blame "Almaz-Antey" not, as in the USSR group with the same name has not yet been. Despite the sanctions, the leadership of "Almaz-Antey" promises to fulfill all obligations of the state defense order and export sales. Russian air defense system rightly considered the best The world. Widely known for the famous "trehsotka." Under the name of S-300 produced several types of combat systems, designed to cover the stationary and moving objects. C-300V4, for example, can perform tasks even missile defense. One system S-300V4, since the range of 300 kilometers, is able to simultaneously bombard 24 aerodynamic targets, including inconspicuous objects, or 16 ballistic missiles flying at speeds up to 4500 m / s.Today we can say that it is the C-300V4 covered the sky during the Sochi Winter Olympics there. Currently, the production of even more powerful S-400, finalized C-500. Specialists of the company has created a unique mobile anti-aircraft missile system S-350E "Hero". In the world it is not unique. P-350E secures within 60 kilometers. This is an important line of defense. Launcher includes 12 missiles. The system is able to simultaneously hit 16 aerodynamic and ballistic targets 12, that is, short-range missiles at ranges of up to 60 km and a height of 10 m to 30 km.Information processing is based on digital technologies. "Knights" has already started to produce commercially. They are adopted by the Russian army, and soon, in spite of all sanctions will be exported. On the global arms market is not less popular than the powerful "trehsotki" use anti-aircraft missiles short range "Tor-M1". They are able to reliably cover all means of air attack troops on the march. "Torah" are in service in many countries, including China and Greece. Going to meet the wishes of customers, the company developed a modular modification of "Thor." It can be mounted on wheeled chassis, produced by those countries that are willing to buy such a complex. Specifically, now, "Thor" can be mounted on the base of the Indian heavy truck "TATA" and based on the chassis of the Minsk Wheeled Tractor Plant. Both options have aroused great interest of potential foreign customers. Since all the stuffing of domestic air-defense systems available in our country, the ban on imports in some Russian high-tech element base, does not affect the quality of missiles and control systems and will not affect the rate of release of defensive weapons for air- aerospace defense of the Fatherland. Dossier "RG" Concern was established in 2002. It includes 46 enterprises - factories, research and production associations, design bureaus and research institutes. In 2007, there was an integration group, now in its composition over sixty companies of the seventeen regions of the country. Goes active renewal process equipment and the establishment of serial production of military equipment of the fifth generation. Rossiyskaya Gazeta

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Friday, September 5, 2014

AUGUST 12 - THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE SUBMARINE KURSK

August 12 - the anniversary of the death of the nuclear submarine "Kursk", who died in 2000 in the waters of the Barents Sea. It was one of the newest and most reliable submarines. Nevertheless, killing 118 crew members. A huge number of versions of wandering in the media and still. There are absolutely crazy, and there are those who come to think over. Let us remember and appreciate them once again, including the official ...

  • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
  • Version № 1. torpedo explosion. As in the case of the K-129, NATO experts strongly suggest an internal explosion on board the "Kursk". Speaking of K-141, the American military reminisce about their own tragedy May 21, 1968, occurred in the Atlantic, near the Azores, when an American submarine sank "Scorpion". Then killed 99 people. Five months later, the wreckage of the housing were obnruzhenny at a depth of 3000 meters. Report of the Commission of the Navy volume na1354 page was declassified only 24 years after the disaster, the Commission concluded that the most likely cause of death was her own boat torpedo fired by accident and took place at 180 degrees. Other experts believe that caught fire and exploded a faulty battery. Officially, the cause of the accident has not yet been announced. According to Tom Clancy is ,. what happened to "Scorpio", could happen with the "Kursk." We already know that the first explosion occurred at 11.28, and after 2 minutes 15 seconds, followed by a second, more powerful operators echolocation systems, it follows the course of the exercise on the board of two or three submarines NATO, located at a respectful distance, nearly deaf that rumble was heard at the headphones. Blast wave of the second explosion recorded seismic stations located 3,200 kilometers from the accident site. According to estimates of experts Norwegian seismological institute NORSAR, a second explosion was equivalent to the explosion of one or two tons of TNT. Moreover, the nature of the peaks and the horizontal sections of the recorded signal saying that the second explosion was actually a series of bomb blasts almost simultaneously. Not only western, but also many Russian experts suggest that could explode inside the submarine set warheads. At least two (and possibly four) of the ten sections of "Kursk" was instantly flooded, then the ship was immobilized, and the nuclear reactor is automatically muted. torpedo fired from the "Kursk" could explode at the exit of the boat. Then the first explosion - torpedo itself, second - detonated ammunition. However, the nature of the destruction on the submarine at the same time would be different. probable cause of the accident is considered a test that failed and a new type of torpedo. Suggest that it was a torpedo, rising into the air, and then re-enters the water to hit the enemy submarines, torpedoes, or a new version with a reduced noise level, equipped with rocket engines. Tuzhikov Michael does not believe in their version of the torpedo explosion: "Kursk" lying on the ground with a raised periscope, and no torpedoes at periscope depth with the Second World does not shoot. The version that the periscope could "itself" to leave from hitting the ground - idiotic. Periscope is raised hydraulically to force 150 kg per square meter. cm. If the energy is lost in the hydraulic system or a gap happen, and it happens, the periscope underits own weight falls back and breaks up in the trash. So "he" he can not get out. But most importantly - a torpedo explosion does not explain why the submarine damaged tower and coaming pad emergency escape hatch in the stern " Explosion combat torpedo attached to the rack and having a plurality of stages of protection that has caused the death of the "Kursk" is unlikely.











    August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
  • Version №2. "Kursk" was sunk by an American submarine "Memphis", which released on her torpedo. former British military officer and engineer torpedoes Maurice Stradling (formerly, by the way, a key figure in the original investigation) called even mark torpedo, which the Americans had sunk "Kursk". " In all likelihood, the Kursk was sunk by an American MK-48 torpedo, "- said Mr. Stradling, a former board member of the British Ministry of Defence.Editor of the BBC BBC Nick Fraser hastened to call this statement "only lies" and refused to put on British television documentary film of the French "Kursk - a submarine in the waters of anxiety", which has already attracted a record audience - more than 4 million viewers - on French television.

    August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
  • Earlier, the BBC BBC attracted Mr. Stradling as chief adviser in his 2001 documentary "What sank the Kursk?". Then he held the view that the flooding could be caused by a malfunction outdated Russian torpedo. But now Stradling, who also took part in the shooting of a French documentary, said: "At that time, in 2001, the film Bi-bi-si was quite acceptable in view of the facts that were known to us then, as we understand them, and then we had no idea the possible involvement of a third party. "
    August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
  • A new explanation of the reasons for the flooding of "Kursk" is based on the detected hole in the side of the vessel and the evidence of the presence of submarines the United States in the same area at the same time when the "Kursk" sank. In the French film has footage of "Kursk" raised out of the water, where it is distinctly seen round smooth hole in the right side of the ship. And the edge of the hole clearly bent inward vessel, which is consistent with the fact that the attack on the outside of the submarine. American military power in the French documentary also states that such an opening is "firm" clue impact American MK-48 torpedo, which has the ability to run like clockwork through the steel casing vessel thanks to a special mechanism on the nose of the torpedo, which ignites and melts the copper.
    A Some American experts even argue that such a hole - a kind of trademark of the American torpedo MK-48.
    August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
  • According to the version of the French documentary film-makers, the attack occurred when two American submarines, "Toledo" and "Memphis", secretly tracked "Kursk". Then the "Toledo" bumped into "Kursk", while the Russian submarine opened its torpedo chamber, which resulted in an attack by "Memphis" which protects damage "Toledo" during the retreat of the last reverse.
    Moreover, in the course of search and rescue operations until such time as the situation is not controlled by the authorities, the media leaked information, which is not far from the place of death of the "Kursk" were found light green rescue buoys, although the Russians use only white-red. Another indication of the plausibility of this version is a welcome signal for help, who took cruiser "Peter the Great", 13-14 August. And if the original rescuers hoped that these signals are sent to the "Kursk", then later, after decoding, it became clear that they came with a foreign submarine (they were submitted to mechanical transducer, and Russian submarines are not used). And posthumous note submarine captain clearly indicates that at this time the ship had no one who could ask for help.
    August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
  • It should also be noted that at the time when searching for the submarine alarm was raised by two anti-aircraft squadrons, the pilots found oil stains left by another submarine. It is clear that suspicion immediately fell on the British and Americans, whose submarines were in the same place. But if the British zealously defended his innocence, demanding that the Russians evidence that Americans were more subdued, as if they had something to hide. And it's true that it was: on the seabed guard rescuers found the conning tower, which is usually installed on American submarines. Thus, from the very beginning it was very clear until the authorities did their best to mislead the civilian population.
    then the true cause of the sinking of the "Kursk", it is stated in the film, was hidden by a diplomatic agreement between the then two presidents Bill Clinton and Vladimir Putin . The deal included the cancellation of Russia's debt amounting to $ 10 billion.
    Here's the movie:
    • The crew of the "Kursk" shortly before the fatal campaign.
      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • Version №3 According to the Canadian television History Channel, during the surveillance of the "Kursk" "Toledo" tried to get closer, but accidentally collided with the Russian Premier League, may perform the maneuver. Captain "Memphis", thinking that the "Kursk" attacked "Toledo" (presumably received acoustic signal the opening of the torpedo locks), shot by the Russian submarine. According to "Lieutenant Colonel Andrei", "small submarine AS-15 (apparently , refers to one of the Premier League, "Sperm Whale" (Project 1910) - Ed.) after the disaster quickly discovered the "Kursk." But there was no decision on the rescue operation - although, according to the source, the divers on board were able to operate at a depth of up to 200 meters. "Kursk" was lying at a depth of 108 meters. "Sperm whales" are among the most secret of the Russian Navy boats. To this day really do not know whether they obey the command of the sea. At least until 1986 (at the time the first submarine this type went for three years), they were listed under the GRU. "We thought that the crew was killed, there was no contact with them - continues the story of Lieutenant Colonel. - When I was cooking Korabel'nikova coffee, the phone rang. Command pale, listened and murmured: "I will in a moment." "These American (...) flooded our ship, you know? There will be war, there will be war!" - allegedly said Korabel'nikov. Naturally, both versions of the American side rejected. In fact, around the American involvement in the incident and the whole mess brewed. Against this background, began to be forgotten that in the area of exercise and even attended a British boat, supposedly "Splendid" (Splendid). In 1986, she is faced with a Soviet submarine "Simbirsk", and in 1999 struck at Serbia, and its supposedly frightened surfaced in the Mediterranean "Kursk." After the explosion at the "Kursk" submarine, confusing traces left for repairs to NATO base. And one of them is supposed to be during the day fighting for survival in the hundred meters from lying on the bottom of the "Kursk" giving signals "SOS". That fact of the presence of the two boats in the area of the crash, along with the coordination of positions on force majeure between Moscow , Washington and London, is supposed to be able to serve as a reason for delaying the rescue operation for rescuing the victims agonizing death of Russian sailors. Interestingly track down the movements of the Americans after the incident failed, but the situation with the British nuclear submarine has not been clarified. Perhaps the public interest deliberately taken to the side of the Americans ... The idea that the possible involvement of "Splendid" in the death of the "Kursk", worried about the British. In there the version of "Wikipedia" in the page on this boat, made ​​a very extensive retreat. It argues that there is no relationship to the death of a British nuclear submarine Russian boats had. "Though the charges were unfounded, the conspiracy theorists have developed them in a variety of ways for a long time" - said in English "Wikipedia". Indeed, as early as 2000 "Nezavisimaya Gazeta" published an opinion of one of the captains, divers, according to which, the submarine "Splendid" laid to rest next to the "Kursk" at the bottom of the Barents Sea, and was blown up during the operation to raise the Russian boats. The author suggested that soon we will hear about the death or retirement of the Premier League. In October 2000, according to the BBC, 12 nuclear submarines (including all submarine "Swiftsure") were removed from combat duty because of a leak in the cooling system of a nuclear reactor of class submarines Trafalgar. How many boats then returned to the system - is not precisely known.According to the catalog, "Jane", our "heroine" was decommissioned in 2004. Although it was the last in a row and the newest boat project "Swiftsure" (there are six), scrapped for some reason she went first.seems that back in 2003 this boat, according to British sources, which are based exclusively on the two small reportage BBC, "worked" against targets in Iraq. Incidentally, one of these materials present a very curious image: a sailor takes "Jolly Roger" with obviously wrecked logging "Splendid".















      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • Version № 4. Another version, which does not hold water - is a version of a landmine during the war.Indeed, the mines of World War II are still being felt, especially in the Nordic Seas. Chief of Staff of the Northern Fleet, Vice-Admiral Mikhail Motsak said that only in recent years found nine such mines. And yet, according to experts, the explosive force booby slingshot would not be enough for such a serious injury boats having protivoledovoy protection, rugged of magnetic steel (about 40 mm), lasting ballast tank and lightweight body (10-15 mm) perforated rubber. It is very easy to refute. Firstly, damage which remain from these munitions have a characteristic shape, which confused with something else is simply impossible. And if indeed it happened, no other versions simply would not have arisen. Secondly, mine those times could cause serious damage to the boat so that the immediate cause of her death. In addition, polygons, where training exercises are used for such purposes for decades, they have been repeatedly updated, so to say, that there is still possible to find a mine, you can not. Moreover, the "Kursk" is equipped with a "path minoiskaniya." Thus, this version does not match the reality.

      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • Version № 5. Sabotage. This version is more speculation by some media. Theoretically, if the explosive high power lay in the area of the bulkhead separating the first compartment from the second, the rapid flooding of two compartments volume is quite real. Do not hide the fact that it was most likely the external enemy, put the bomb in the hope that a catastrophe of this size will force the Russian government to refuse to renew the naval presence in the Mediterranean Sea and the Persian Gulf, as well as the impact on the activity of the nuclear submarine fleet Russia in the World Ocean. Russia in the twentieth century has built more than half of all nuclear submarines in the world. In 60-80. Soviet fleet has grown rapidly and could compete with the American. But to date, the overall status of the Russian Navy is truly catastrophic, and normal maintenance and operation of the nuclear fleet is very expensive. So that such diversion is hardly the case as much more effective financial and economic impact. This may also include and "Chechen trace". Arrived Russian FSB director Patrushev said on August 24 that "Kursk" were two people from Dagestan, the employees of the plant "Dagdizel" producing engines for submarines. According to Patrushev, the FSB, the first days of collecting information on them, but "there are no data on their possible involvement in the collapse of yet," On the same day, representatives of the Federal Security Service said that they had no questions to experts from Dagestan. Loading missiles






      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • Version № 6. PE in the first compartment
      in the case of the "Kursk" talked a lot about the damage and short circuit faults, which could lead to a cascade failure of all equipment and vehicle systems, such as happened with the boat "Komsomolets", who died in the Norwegian Sea in April 1989.
      general in the history of Soviet and Russian nuclear fleet submarine accidents (not counting the "Kursk"), killing about 500 people. According to statistics, the submarine sank often after exercise or at the end of long trips. The main cause of the fires were. However, fires - it is rather a design basis accidents, personnel must know how to remove them. But if
      Design miscalculation ... But in the case of the "Kursk" can not have nothing to say about the design rendering. Submarines of this project been in operation for several years and have no serious complaints.Although this version will be checked.
      PE in the first compartment could happen due to the fault of the crew. Possible error crew that caused flooding, stated repeatedly, especially the Western media.
      course, the human factor plays an important role, accidents on submarines may arise as a result of negligence, neglect their duties any of the crew or the people who created the
      boat.
      But Here is the opinion of Victor Rysakova first commander of the "Kursk": "I personally took away these people on the ship ... In 1994, tests showed a great boat, doing every imaginable and unimaginable maneuvers. And the story of a collision with a surface vessel, I think delusional. We know also that the periscope was raised. If so, then the commander could not help noticing
      the approaching danger. Something happened inside: a blast weapons or explosion of the battery. Now on board people that I personally took away the ship. All of them have been trained in the training center in Obninsk and at the factory. Baigarin, Silogava, Rudakov, Keslinsky, Borisov, Gorbunov, Kozaderov ... experienced, persistent submariners. Those on the "Kursk" a lot. So you can shove up your ass comments about psychologists hysterics and stupor - strong people will not allow this.
      Crew was recognized as one of the best in the Northern Fleet at the end of last school year. Most of those who knew the crew and the boat talking about the accident as an "exceptional" circumstances.
      known that the probability of an accident on the ALP increases when the fatigue factor affecting the crew.But fatigue Crew K-141 is unlikely - the exercises were short-lived.
      Basically the probability that in the case of "Kursk" cause of the accident was any fault of the crew, is small, but if they are not presented evidence of other releases, this version can be dominant. After all, the crew will not be able to answer ...
      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • Version № 7. «Kursk" sunk by a missile is a very controversial one: "Kursk" sunk by a torpedo (missile), released in time exercises with another Russian submarine (ship). Accidentally, inadvertently. This is the most "bulky object or mine", which officials say. And then the ammunition exploded. Here's how to interpret this version of "Moscow News" under the heading "How to kill" Kursk " "In the course of journalistic investigation, we have new compelling evidence that the cause of death of K-141 was the Russian superraketa system" Granite "... ... new missile launch after flying over the with water and with a special homing seeking goal - the submarine. Once an object is found, the missile dives into the water and hit him. " Then explains how reporters learned that the missile firing carried out on schedule: from 2 to 12 August.Everything was going fine. The last day was last run. "rocket, flying about 20 kilometers into the water.Instruments recorded explosion. "Yes, we have seen and without instruments - visually, it's all been within sight - told participants in the trial to our correspondent. - Here is the second blast in the same place at first puzzled. Then someone suggested that it was blown up some charge as part of the naval exercises.And everybody calmed down. " With regard to underwater divers, in the opinion of "Moscow News", they are. "They were brought to the scene of the tragedy in the sea almost immediately after the terrible discovery. Plane. One - with the Black Sea Fleet, the second - from the Pacific. And they immediately started to dive. But divers were not engaged in the rescue of the crew of the submarine, did not try to open the escape hatch, did not attempt to establish communication with the survivors. They have not even studied the damage to the submarine (which is why no one really knew what the roll of the boat, how many compartments flooded - initially all these data were taken "from the ceiling") ... ... Divers several times a day down to the bottom of a diving vessel "Altai . " After each lift head of the search and rescue operations of the Northern Fleet Teslenko helicopter flew to the "Peter the Great" - Fleet Commander Popov reported on the results of " "... At the scene of the tragedy was not allowed even our rescue from the MOE. Only the military! " August 16 at eight in the evening was made ​​a formal declaration of readiness to accept foreign aid. Okay, but what kind of mast standing observers to see the underwater explosion with the naked eye? And for what purpose were being fired? And most importantly, what a seeker looking for divers after two explosions high power? If they could look for something (in the case of their actual residence at the site where the "Kursk"), so this evidence after the collision of "Kursk" with any object, underwater or above water. As assured in the Northern Fleet, during these exercises Accuracy held anti-aircraft missiles and warheads which are loaded with ready fragmentation elements. This missile is undermined in the air. Even a direct hit by anti-aircraft missiles can not penetrate the hull. Especially that the boat was at a depth, albeit relatively small.











      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • Version № 8. Deliberate flooding? During rescue operations became clear another item that adds an unexpected twist in the death of K-141, but hardly clarifies the circumstances. The fact that the submarine "Kursk" to be flooded during exercises, Military News Agency reported more May 11, 2000. Message was: "... in July - August in the Northern Fleet will host students today ie emergency search of naval forces to assist" sunken "nuclear boat. Teaching plan has been prepared and approved by the Office of the search and rescue operations of the Navy ... In accordance with the scenario of a nuclear submarine exercises as a result of "an accident" must lie on the ground, and rescue vessel "Michael Rudnicki" (Project 05360) will provide access to the surface "of the affected crew . " The rise of people with more than one hundred meters depth will be performed using a special rescue " bell. " However, in a further report Military News Agency depth "more than a hundred meters" shall be replaced by 25 meters. Participants exercises using personal equipment submariner, leave the boat through the torpedo tubes and rise to the surface by the free ascent. " It was emphasized that such exercises have not been conducted for many years due to lack of funds and skills out of the sunken submarine through the torpedo crews worked through in a specially designed pool simulator. Already after the accident, August 16, the editor of the Agency Rudenko said that current extraordinary events really are almost identical to the published plan exercises, but this "terrible coincidence"




      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • Version № 9. Collision with surface ship versions of the collision of "Kursk" submarine with a certain object is constantly changing. First conjectured collision with the nuclear-powered icebreaker or freighter. But how could it be a civilian vessel in the area of the exercise? Theoretically, exercise area is always closed to the civil courts, although in practice there are cases where someone from the courts "wander" into the restricted area. Do none of the dozens of warships participating in the exercises, have not found an unexpected guest? In the St. Petersburg office of "Komsomolskaya Pravda" during a rescue call from a man who wished to remain anonymous. He said only that worked for many years in the Northern Fleet, providedsonar surface ships and submarines. Here is his opinion: "Damage ragged nature suggests that the submarine" Kursk "on ascent ran into the keel of a surface ship, took part in the exercises. Submariners know that sometimes when you ascend a situation arises where the submarine sonar "does not see" what is on the surface. Machinery and people nothing to do with blame special conditions of sound propagation in the sea, for example, after a storm. I myself was once on a boat that floated just a few meters from the ship. " Experts say that with such a heavy collision surface ship receives minimal damage, which, in principle, have almost no influence on the general condition. A majority of the crew may not notice that the cruiser to iron boat, especially at sea for more than 3 points. Version controversial because such a collision has occurred almost within sight of the other participants in the exercises. Is this true or speculation, remains to be seen. To do this, you should at least explore the dry dock bottom heavy shipbuilders who participated in the exercise.






      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • Version number 10 The first explosion, as some national experts, it could have come from a collision with a German mine from World War II-type EMC or EMF. In particular, the calculations and simulations show that the undermining of mines with a mass of 300-350 kg warhead could theoretically lead to the formation of holes in the pressure hull of the boat. It is likely that the detonation of ammunition at the same time would not have happened. Single undermining sea mines for submarine tonnage of such great danger in the current situation, obviously not, but the first compartment of the submarine in this case began to fill the tanks with seawater. Housing separate torpedoes are in the compartment can be accessed by undermining the Premier League on a mine mechanical damage (they can be reset with the basic rack). Probably any violation of strength or integrity of the seal assemblies Fence-drain devices and safety valves of nitrogen torpedoes. seawater That could lead to unauthorized launch single-use batteries torpedoes damaged buildings located in the first compartment on the shelves or in the torpedo tubes. And this situation is already potentially dangerous. In this case, hydrogen evolution begins and the temperature rise inside the battery, and the reaction proceeds exponentially, with ever-increasing speed, which can eventually lead to an explosion. The simulation results showed that the time interval from the beginning of the adverse events before the explosion could reach up to about 3 minutes. Can not be ruled out until the end, and that these circumstances could lead to a subsequent detonation of ammunition and almost instantaneous destruction of the boat and crew. Thus, it is briefly as follows: the undermining of a mine (first explosion) - mechanical damage torpedoes - chemical reaction - the explosion and almost simultaneous detonation of ammunition (second explosion). Today, this hypothesis explains a lot, links together disparate, conflicting data.Launching



      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
    • The official version. According to this document, the cause of death of the submarine has been leaked hydrogen peroxide from the torpedo SS-N-16 (according to the American classification). In Soviet times it was held under the heading "Item number 398", and now in the Russian Navy is known under the code 65-76. However, the sailors called it "Keith", and the command - "Tolstoy" because, according to Dorogina, it really looks like the barrel-shaped (diameter torpedo - 650 mm). C "Whale" always an emergency. The fact that this type of torpedo moving through a chemical reaction (reactants - hydrogen peroxide and kerosene). It is known that hydrogen peroxide is easily decomposed into atomic oxygen and water. A atomic oxygen - one of the best oxidants. But problems with such an oxidant is more than enough - such peroxide concentrations may even decompose spontaneously. And catching atomic oxygen oxidizes and destroys the inside of the vessel wall with peroxide. Roughly the same thing happened with "Keith", which was in the first section of the "Kursk". Rather peroxide PROELA outer wall torpedo and entered into chemical reaction with the organic lubricant. Because of this, and there was a first, a thermal explosion, which threw into the bay about 2 tons of a mixture of peroxide and kerosene. Naturally, this mixture immediately exploded. "Even the regular F-1 grenade, or" pineapple ", in which only 75 grams of explosives, destroying everything within a radius of 20 meters, - says Dorogin. - Now imagine the effect of two tons of explosives in a confined space. I saw the breech is located near the site of the explosion of the torpedo tube. It is made ​​of fine steel having a thickness of 40 mm and is initially strongly curved towards the compartment.Now, imagine that this explosion breech turned inside out and literally shoved into the machine. " first compartment was killed instantly. Those that have survived the second compartment, flatten out when the rest of the torpedo detonated.




      August 12 - the anniversary of the submarine "Kursk" Russian history
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